Cedars' posts seem to be saying he is willing to leave this thread and the evidence herein alone, and move on. He has apologised repeatedly, admitted he should have acted differently, and if people would stop posting 'gee, I really don't want to stir things up or flog a dead horse, but..' or airing their grievances over things that can't be undone in any way, we could just put this behind us. I've had issues with Cedars and his seeming oversensitivity in the past, but having spoken to him via PM, I have found him to be polite and gentlemanly, even when I'm offering criticism. Some people take words and accusations very seriously, perhaps for personal reasons others don't understand.. If you treat people kindly, don't insult them or retaliate, peace will eventually prevail.
Be a pacifist.. And if anyone tries to ruin the peace, just shoot 'em ;)
The Quiet One
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Did Cedars manipulate Lee into having a thread closed?
by cedars ini will happily answer this question if there can be some guarantees this thread won't be deleted..
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Did Cedars manipulate Lee into having a thread closed?
by cedars ini will happily answer this question if there can be some guarantees this thread won't be deleted..
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To be fair..
Simon said: "No one should feel threatened or have to put up with being insulted." .. And Simon also said..
"Cedars desperately wants to be a leader and have followers but is possibly the least suitable person I've ever come acrosss to be in that role.
Lying, denying, throwing people under the bus, poor communication, stubborn, insulting, childish, obsessive, retaliatory - not a leader. Perfect qualifications to rise in the WTS ranks though." -
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Cant find a Post
by im stuck in inhello: the other day i started to read a post about elders waking up or something like that.
i was going to come back and read it but now i can't find it.
if anyone knows where it is could you tell me.
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If you want to show a JW some of the older publications from a non-apostate and 'safe' website..
by The Quiet One in"it is appreciated that these documents do not reflect the current understanding of the bible enjoyed by jehovah's witnesses, and for up-to-date information the reader is encouraged to visit the official site of the watchtower bible and tract society.".
http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/.
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Emeth said: "The eldest one does not smoke, does not use drugs (which is legal in my country) is honest and shows perfect manners and respect to all kind of people. He truly thinks about the wellbeing of others and is a kind guy."
.. According to your beliefs, Jehovah wouldn't take that into account if Armageddon came. You either accept the Governing Bodys current truths without question, or you die an unbeliever (or apostate) at Armageddon.. But I won't say anymore. I can't imagine how you must feel about that, and I don't want to cause offense. -
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If you want to show a JW some of the older publications from a non-apostate and 'safe' website..
by The Quiet One in"it is appreciated that these documents do not reflect the current understanding of the bible enjoyed by jehovah's witnesses, and for up-to-date information the reader is encouraged to visit the official site of the watchtower bible and tract society.".
http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/.
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"I do have children, they are free to decide themselves about what is best for them. They can leave without any devastating consequences. I am sure of that since i did the same when i was young...Few years later i became one of them. " ..EMETH-- Putting these statements together, you clearly infer that your children are not baptised. Which would show that you have deliberately missed the point entirely.. If they were alive and baptised back in Rutherfords time, and had gone around telling people (for example) that Rutherford authorised the writing of a lot of uninspired nonsense that was completely laughable, even using quotes of some of the things he wrote/authorised in the journal recognised as Gods line of communication, they would be questioning the line of the Faithful and Discreet Slave and contradicting the latest 'new light' Watchtower (july 15th 2013) that stated he was chosen as part of that Faithful Slave from 1919.. Correct?
And what are the consequences for being critical of Gods chosen representative on earth and the only channel of communication to mankind today?.. And yet as time passes the mistakes, failures, and false predictions that have amassed during that time have been, and will yet be, swept aside for 'new understandings'.. Whilst your children would have been disfellowshipped, torn away from a normal relationship with you once/if they are old enough to leave home, and left outside of Gods organisation to be marked fit for destruction at Armageddon.. Because they had simply looked back and thought 'hang on, why are we following guidance from a channel that told us in 1918 God would destroy Christendom and 1920 would bring anarchy, and even published a book claiming that Millions Now Living Will Never Die..' Of course, as the numbers expanded and the 144,000 mark became nearer, Rutherford was suddenly blessed with 'new understanding', that there would have to be another group that would not be going to heaven..Yet what would have happened to you or your children if you had believed such a thing and dared to voice that belief?In the future, the generation teaching will be 'adjusted' again, as may be the 'understanding' of only the literal 144,000 going to heaven, as the numbers of anointed expand or the current anointed die off.. The Governing Body can teach whatever they want, change whatever 'understanding' they want to.. They don't even claim to get everything they teach from God. And yet if your children dare to think for themselves, or even to find 'laughable' todays truths that have yet to be updated, the things that future Witnesses will see as 'irrelevant, wrong, and at best amusing'.. Their lives will be affected greatly. There will be consequences, and you know that..Todays apostacy could be tomorrows 'new light'. And todays amusing old relics..were yesterdays life-saving truths. -
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If you want to show a JW some of the older publications from a non-apostate and 'safe' website..
by The Quiet One in"it is appreciated that these documents do not reflect the current understanding of the bible enjoyed by jehovah's witnesses, and for up-to-date information the reader is encouraged to visit the official site of the watchtower bible and tract society.".
http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/.
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Emeth-- Seeing as you seem to have ignored it, Cofty asked you: "What do you believe that you are confident will never change in the future?"
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From Prison to Prosperity - new JW.org video
by cedars inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofo9xmhis5c.
let no one say witnesses don't catch people at their most vulnerable, or use love bombing.. .
cedars.
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*CEDARS, sorry but have you checked your PM's?*
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New announcement at this weeks midweek meeting?
by rosyray inthe congregation i'm from is having their meeting tonight.
my husband said that his brother in law, who is an elder, called and said that there were going to be some big announcements tonight and to bring a notepad, because you will want to take notes.. does anybody know about this and what are the announcements?
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Exactly, Jeffro. Good to drop a hint for the lurkers ;)
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/error-found-in-new-silver-sword-revised-new-world-translation -
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JW apologist Emeth dismisses teachings of Russell as irrelevant, uninspired and even funny.. Maybe in the future jw's will say the same about todays Governing Body?
by The Quiet One inemeth said: "russell never claimed to be a inspired prophet or without any failures or mistakes.
he was just a human as much as i and you are.
he is just a person who started a process of digging and searching for bible truths.
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Strange how the Governing Body claim not to be inspired , though, considering this statement published by Jehovahs Faithful Slave..
"The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men.No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower.."Watchtower1931 Nov 1 p.327 -
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Did Cedars manipulate Lee into having a thread closed?
by cedars ini will happily answer this question if there can be some guarantees this thread won't be deleted..
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I tried to point this out earlier.. This thread will continue to be bumped, the number of ironic comments being made about flogging dead horses/cats etc is almost funny. Can we please let this die, by funnily enough NOT POSTING rather than posting to say people are flogging a horse/having a pointless fight etc.. or have the thread locked? (i'm no moderator, just an amateur peacekeeper)